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What is going on, everybody?
Welcome to Class Domini Roundtable.
We've already got Kenneth
and Corey and Jake in the chat.
Good to see you all.
And Kat's with us.
She is.
I am surprised, surprised.
Yeah, it didn't last very long, so.
Oh,
you actually had your meeting and it's
already over?
I did and it was over, yeah.
You never really know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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I'm rewatching breaking bad right now.
And yeah,
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Yeah.
Every time they cut to her.
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I did some research about that.
Oh yeah.
Was there some hidden meaning?
I think that there could be
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Purple is a loyal color.
Okay.
So, but yeah, everything was purple.
Purple and yellow and
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I miss that show.
It's so good.
It's funny too.
I saw it when it originally came out,
I guess.
I think I binge watched it
like once it was almost over.
But I don't remember everything.
I mean, I remember big chunks,
but I'm still at the edge
of my seat every time.
I'm always like, Oh,
what's going to happen?
So it's kind of fun to watch again.
Cause I,
it's like I've watched it for
watching it for the first time.
Yeah.
Julie,
Julie didn't watch it with me the
last time she wants to watch it now.
So I think we're going to go
through it again.
So we're going to call Saul.
No, never watched some of it.
You have to get through the
first two seasons and then
it's as good as breaking bad.
Is it really?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Good, good, good.
So it's been a crazy week.
I want to start off with some good news.
I don't know if you guys saw this,
but friends of the show,
Dan and Alex Bailey,
Alex had their twins.
And I put the picture up
just to confirm it doesn't have a mullet.
They weren't fitted for a frame t-shirts.
Danny bro flex that gene
must not have been passed on.
No.
But super excited for them.
I guess it was not an easy labor, but she,
Alex hung in there and gave
birth late last week to
Hayden and Addison Bailey.
So congrats to them.
um I haven't got your your
guys's perspective why does
it go back to that when I i
don't know yeah uh well I
haven't got your
perspective on the
penalties well I watched
dave's week in review that
was did you watch it to see
him talking about it I did okay
So that's interesting.
Um, I,
I can hear what he's saying and that
already sounds like they're
making changes for next year.
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, sure.
But I know in our text string,
one of the things I was
talking about was I was
curious about what does
that review process look like?
Like when when they're watching the videos,
do they just watch it straight through?
Do they slow it down?
Do they freeze it?
Do they go back?
Because that to me is
completely different versus, you know,
being in.
live competition.
You can't go back and re-watch footage,
at least in this sport.
Different, obviously, in other sports.
So that is kind of bothersome to me.
And if they just do watch it through,
then cool.
But it seems like, wait, did I see that?
Was that a no rep or not?
I'm curious what those
standards are for them on reviewing.
Kat,
I think you're probably best qualified to
Yeah.
I mean,
I can only speak to how video
review for CrossFit has
been done in the past.
I have no idea.
It could be a thousand
percent different this year.
Um, and I,
and it's been several years
since I was on that team
reviewing videos.
Um,
but the way it worked back then was
you'd get assigned, um, an age group or a,
you know, open or men or, you know,
50 to 54 males, whatever it was.
Um,
And we would all, and when I say we,
I mean, you know,
the same batch of people
that are judging at
semifinals and at the games
and probably lesser
qualified judges as well,
not just those sort of higher level folks,
but because, you know,
you need a lot of resources.
We would go through the videos and
from my perspective,
I would go through like a,
just a perfunctory review, you know,
did they say all the things,
did they get the measurements right?
Did they do all the, you know,
they do the workout in the
right order kind of a thing.
Um,
and oftentimes that would be done like
at a faster speed just
because we had so many to get through.
Um, but if there was,
if there were things that
were chronic that you would
notice that weren't happening,
once you get back to the
beginning and do it on, you know,
real time and you start
counting reps and things.
And if you see stuff that's weird,
you know,
you can flag it as needs
additional review and then
write your notes about what
you thought was wrong with
the workout or the performance,
if you will.
And then at that point in time,
it would get reviewed by a
second level of person.
And I actually complained
the one year that I did it
because I saw major
penalties that I would
report that never got reported.
You know,
I remember one time like talking
to or reviewing
remember that workout with
the dumbbells where you
were like right under the
rig and it was like
dumbbell somethings and
then toe to bar and jump rope.
And it was like a, you know, an AMRAP.
And I remember somebody's,
somebody's boyfriend was
like moving their dumbbells
every time after their rounds.
And I got so mad, like,
cause you're not allowed to have help,
you know, during the, during the workout.
And I had reported that and
nothing happened.
Like that person didn't get
a penalty or whatever.
So,
I think it depends on who's reviewing,
you know, how how strict they're being.
But I would imagine that
there are some folks, at least,
like I said, back when I did it,
there were people that
could have had major penalties.
But if that first line
review didn't catch it,
nobody else would be looking at it.
Right.
And you could sort of go through and flat,
you know, and say, yep, approved,
approved, approved.
I don't know what the
quality control was on the
back end for someone to go back and say,
okay, well,
Kat approved all of her things.
Do we really know that she
did a good job approving those or not?
Who knows?
And, you know,
you get some people that are
in that role that are super
nitpicky and they want
every single one of their
videos to get reviewed by
someone else because this
isn't right or that isn't right.
And it's very subjective, right?
I mean,
I've been no repping people forever
on air squats,
for not fully extending at
the top of an air squat, you know,
you're sort of like your
legs are straight and your,
and your hips are kind of open,
but you're like leaning forward, right?
You're not standing all the way up.
Your shoulders aren't
stacked with your hips.
I've done that in person too.
And it hasn't really been upheld.
So I see that sort of like
the step up full extension types issue.
And I know I've done step
ups before where I have felt in my head,
That I am standing all the
way up and I've seen video
of myself and I am nowhere
near standing up like with
my hips not completely open.
So I understand, you know,
how that could happen.
I didn't review videos this year.
No,
I think probably 19 or 20 was the last
time I reviewed videos for the games.
Yeah, and she prefaced this, Jeff,
with... Yeah, like I said,
don't know how it's done now.
Today's policy is,
this is what she did when
she was doing it in 19 or 20.
But I could see other people's review.
And, you know, there would be people on...
on the staff that you knew
they were going to flag
every single one of their videos.
And I don't know if it's
because they needed to like
prove their worth that they
were actually looking at stuff and like,
Hey, I found this and Hey, I found that.
Or what?
And so I don't know if you
got 50 judges first round
this time around that were
like that person that
wanted to check everything.
And they all of a sudden had
all this stuff to review and they thought,
Hmm,
maybe we should be looking at this a
little more closely or what,
but things escalated quickly.
I get the not extending on top of the box,
like with your knees, hips and all that,
but what's the thought
process about the neck or head?
So I think that that's fake news.
Okay.
Okay.
Every video I've seen that got dinged.
Yeah.
Had nothing to do with the
neck and the head.
Okay.
Okay.
So where did that even come from?
So I'm going to share my screen,
get with the programming
posted this on IgE today.
Um, and it,
and it's a big question I have.
Um,
if athletes really think they're
getting screwed,
why aren't they making
their videos public for everyone to see?
Hmm.
So as long as we can't see them,
they can say whatever about it.
That they said my head
wasn't in line or my whatever.
Everybody who has made theirs public,
it's been soft knees or
they were bent over at the top.
And it's like I said,
it's just a it's a thing.
It's super common.
I see it all the time in in
in-person competitions, too.
And we as judges don't
always hold the standard for that.
I've seen it before or I've
called it on everybody and everyone that,
you know,
no one wants my lane because I'm
the only one that's calling it.
Right.
Right.
If you look at Pat Vellner's video,
who I think is a great mover.
his non-working leg so the
is soft on almost every rep
yeah and I would have
called it like I don't I
don't think it was like on
the line it was pretty
obvious that he did not
extend that leg yeah and
when and if you're in
person you know you're no
wrapping that once and then
you're fixing it
And it's probably not
impacting your time or your
score if you had to keep the standard.
You know what I mean?
Like Pat's not going that
much slower or any slower
at all if he's doing the
full range of motion.
Yeah, it's not saving him time to do that.
Yeah.
Which is why, you know,
it's not like he's trying to cheat.
And I will say, though,
also on the snatches, I mean,
I see that all the time on
a regular basis.
People start bending their arms.
Or just even on like if
you're doing hang cleans or something,
I see people start bringing
it back down before they've
come up to full extension.
I remember at Granite Games,
Ben Smith was yelling at me
because I was no repping
him on his muscle ups
because he was like
re-gripping before he would press out.
And you weren't allowed to do that.
It was super slight,
but he couldn't stand me that day.
And it's Ben Smith.
You know we can do it right.
So after all this noise,
I keep going through to make sure,
but I think there's only
four former games athletes
that are not going to
semifinals because of this.
It seems like because the
numbers are so huge.
Yeah, it's a handful.
Yeah.
Right, but it's Paige Powers, Nick Matthew,
Sam Stewart, and Sidney Wells.
And Paige is the only person
to ever finish in the top 10.
Nick Matthew's highest finish was 15th.
And Sidney was like 28th,
and Sam Stewart was 37th.
So maybe, is it possible that...
that these judging decisions
were correct and the right
people did make it through.
Yeah, I hope so.
I just hope that there
aren't people out there
from 30th place to 40th
place that are getting in
that also maybe should have
gotten penalized that didn't.
Yeah.
I don't, you know, from what I heard,
they did that.
If you ever were in the top 60 or 80,
it's one of those numbers.
Yeah.
Right.
But again, you know,
if there were tears to how
things were judged,
did somebody get a judge
that just sort of approved everything?
you know,
cause when you're doing these
video reviews,
like you're sitting in front of the TV,
you got your box of pretzels,
you got your earphones.
You don't know if the dog's running around,
if the kids are bugging you,
like there's lots going on.
It's not just, and you know,
I'm not saying that people
aren't taking it seriously
and doing their jobs,
but you could have gotten a
judge or two that looked
through the video review
and was just like, yep, yep, we're good.
And then,
and then no one's doing any QC behind it.
And again, don't know if that's the case.
I could be completely wrong, but
Yeah.
Like what's the review
process for the reviewers?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And,
and the fact that there's no transparency,
I think is the problem.
Like I think if everyone
understood what the process
was and who the people were
and what their credentials
were and things like that,
I think they'd have a
little more faith in the system,
but because it's not
publicized for whatever reason.
Cause you know,
cause people would complain
about it and criticize it
and poke holes in it and
say it's terrible or whatever,
but it would be great if at least,
We knew what it was.
I don't,
I don't see why it has to be so
secretive.
So Sunday night,
Carolyn said like she did that workout,
looked at the video herself and said,
that doesn't look right.
And said, I need to redo it.
So you do have that option too.
This is videoed.
You have,
I'm sure you have people in your
camp that are willing to
look at your video and say, Hey,
that looks good.
Or it doesn't look good.
Go ahead and submit.
Yeah.
Right.
And to Jeff's question, again,
if it's organized the way
it's been organized in the past,
you get a certain group
that's looking at a certain region.
And so if we're talking
subjectivity and you're talking about,
you know,
somebody that is really looking
at things more closely than
others and flagging more
videos than others,
you could have different
regions being judged differently.
So it's kind of like the luck of the draw.
Who did you get?
And yes,
there have been times that I have
slowed down videos to like
the millisecond,
to the frame by frame by
frame to see what's going on for sure.
Yeah.
I still think that a bigger
deal was made of this than
probably it actually was.
But I think,
and we talked about this the other night,
like Kelly Stone,
she shared her email from
CrossFit that they
explained to her her appeal
and why it was denied and said,
go to rep six.
That's what we're looking for.
Well, on her Instagram,
the only rep she showed to
prove that she was good was rep six.
You can hear her judge yell six.
Got it.
So how do I know that what
you're using is evidence to
say that CrossFit did you wrong?
You're using the rep they said was good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And nobody's making their videos public.
But let's celebrate the
positive that we talked about.
Who did make it through?
As safe?
Annika.
Oh, I know.
Thank God.
Annika.
She and I were going back
and forth yesterday on Instagram.
I sent her a DM and I was like,
are you officially good to go?
Like final, final.
And she's like, Oh my God, what did,
did you hear something?
She thought I was like
trying to warn her that
something was wrong.
I'm like, no, no.
I just, before I congratulate you,
I wanted to make sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So something funny happened
to me last night.
I get, I,
I reposted CrossFit's thread that
said leaderboard is closed.
Yeah.
Whatever.
I get a text from Emily Rolfe.
Is it really?
Because I still have a video
that's not been validated.
I am not an official from CrossFit HQ.
I cannot verify that.
But I'm assuming if it's closed,
they're done reviewing.
Yeah.
And what I've kind of heard
through the grapevine today
is that CrossFit didn't
review all of three and four,
and you may have one that's
not validated because they
didn't review it.
Oh, so there's still a appeal,
but it's been finalized?
Well, Rosecott just got dinged on Sunday.
Okay.
Okay.
And a pretty major penalty.
So,
and I don't know where she is in the
appeal process.
I would just be guessing, but it has been,
I do believe in the past
CrossFit has said
leaderboards closed and
then made a decision after.
It's never really,
it's never really close.
Just when everyone gets to the venue,
then we know it's official.
you know, I mean, we,
this season has been so wild.
We don't know.
There could be a wild card.
Charlie, I'm going to invite you.
So, so talk about judging cat.
You received an email yesterday.
I did.
Yeah.
It was kind of, kind of like an invite.
Um,
it looks like they're only
taking 30 volunteer judges
for the CrossFit games this year,
as opposed to, uh,
the very lots and lots that
they had before.
So traditionally, um,
we'll call us civilian
judges or non seminar staff judges,
volunteer judges, um,
typically did in years past.
Let's talking like from like
27 prior to 2019 when they
had 8,000 people from every country come,
um,
We,
the volunteer judges would just do
teams and age groups, mostly age groups.
And then like the higher
echelon of those volunteer
judges would get to do
teams and never individual.
And then once the field grew
that one year when we
brought all the national
champions and things like that,
there were a group of
volunteer judges that got
to do individual.
And then there'd be a group for team.
I was on the group for team.
And then there was a group for age groups.
And it was, I don't know the numbers,
but I gotta say it's like,
it was in the 50, 60, 70 range,
like a lot of people volunteering.
And then as you know, this year,
we saw a bunch of very high
level volunteer judges or a
lot of like the directors
and things like that,
that were doing individual judging.
And then most of the, most of the
Again,
I think that's just a resource issue.
I don't think there are a
ton of seminar staff
members that we're judging
this past year.
So yeah,
so we got an email saying that
there were going to be 30.
It was from a guy,
a seminar staff person that runs Rogue.
So he sent it to like the
folks that I guess have
done the games before,
been on his team or whoever, and said,
if you're interested,
reply to this email and let
me know ASAP because we're going to
create a group out of this.
I think they're going to
take 30 confirmed and then
keep 10 as alternates.
And those volunteers will
only be needed for Thursday and Friday.
They won't be needed for
Saturday and Sunday.
So it sounds like they'll be on teams,
I'm assuming,
or not a bunch of the stuff
that's going to be
highlighted over the weekend.
And that those volunteers
will have access to the venue,
limited access to the venue
after the fact,
so on Saturday and Sunday.
You know,
not like butts in seats necessarily,
but some general admission
access to the event, which is nice.
And they'll get their swag
and all that kind of stuff,
but a much smaller group
than they've used in the past.
Just to let you know,
because you weren't at the
games last year,
that same person was head
of the logistics of the
judging last year.
Okay, yeah.
At the games as well.
So he did get that job.
I don't think,
he was never on the floor like Boz was.
Yeah, I mean,
he's always been part of the games too,
like running teams and things like that.
What I find fascinating is
this used to be an open call.
Yeah.
Now it's invite only.
And people with the tinfoil hats,
there were people that believed that
Athletes got judged a
certain way if they had an
AFJ judge or not.
Oh yeah.
And it looks like this, like,
let's be honest, Kat,
you have not judged in a
couple of years and you're
on this invite to, to go to the games.
Do you think that they are
trying not to have certain people on?
No,
I think it's probably just an
administrative error on the
part of the person that
didn't realize that I've
been out of the game for quite some time.
Um, but, uh, no, I think, you know,
I think at one point in time,
I was part of that core group that,
that eventually became the AFJ.
Um, I am not part of the AFJ, um,
nor was I ever asked to be on the AFJ.
Um,
not to say that I would or wouldn't have,
if I had been asked, but, um,
Yeah, I don't know.
That's a good question.
I'm pretty sure that, you know,
like all the usual suspects
and all the folks that I
judged rogue at rogue with
are probably on that list.
It's true.
Corey.
Yes.
Have you heard from people?
Because I am really curious to know that.
I haven't.
I did.
I did see something.
Somebody posted something in
one of the Facebook groups that said like,
Hey guys,
I looked on the games website
for volunteers and judges
isn't an option.
And then someone was kind of coy and wrote,
hey,
they're doing it differently this year.
Stay close to your email.
So the person that posted
that obviously didn't get
the email and the original
post and the person that
probably sent that
suggestion probably did get the email.
And that person,
I didn't recognize that person's name.
So who knows?
And I'd be very surprised if
I was selected to go to the
games just based on my
tenure and what I do now
and everything else.
But
I put my hat in the ring anyway,
cause I would love to go.
In Dave's week in review,
he said that they needed to
do something about having
more standardized judging at the semi,
at the quarterfinal level.
But he, in that statement, he said,
not like an organization, just.
Oh yeah.
So I don't know.
I haven't talked to like
Jules or anybody to see if
those guys are part of it.
I can't imagine that they
would cut those people out though.
I'd be surprised.
I'd be, I'd be shocked if they did.
Uh,
it's not the first time CrossFit is
entered into a pissing
contest with a group.
I mean, I was,
I was kind of hoping that
this whole thing, you know,
I feel bad for the AFJ folks that were,
you know, at these camps and, you know,
thinking they were doing a
great job of holding the
standard when in fact
CrossFit came back and said, Oh,
actually no.
Um,
That kind of sucks for them.
I feel bad.
It feels like a slap in the
face from CrossFit,
which I hope is just a
coincidence and not an actual thing.
Yeah,
there has been speculation that it
wasn't coincidence.
And I don't know that.
I mean,
it's all speculation at this point.
Yeah,
now I'm afraid to reach out to anybody.
Oh, no.
I guess we'll see soon enough.
Yeah,
and that's one of the things Dave was
talking about, about the standardized,
like saying like maybe not
having your husband judge
you or like maybe going to...
different and the problem
too with the you know that
group of judges it's so
small and they they are
really really good but they
definitely have like
personal relationships with
the athletes just because
it's such a small sport and
they've been doing it for
so long and um you know
kudos to them for staying
impartial because that's
not the easiest thing to do
I could not judge anymore I could not
Yeah.
See, I totally could.
Yeah.
But you're hard.
I'm not.
I like to hold the standard for sure.
I remember the, the,
the person I remember being
the best mover of anyone
that I've ever judged.
I'll throw some tea now.
Brent Fikowski, the best, the best.
And I even said to him afterwards,
I was like, you were so easy to judge.
And he's like, well,
I want your job to be easy too.
Like, I don't want to get in a rut.
I've never had to give him a no rep.
And I will tell you that
who's the French guy?
Willie George was very mean
to me at Rogue when I was
no repping him on his front
rack position for kettlebell thrusters.
He was not nice at all.
And that was in 2019.
And I have not gotten over that yet.
I still don't like him.
Just saying.
Yeah,
the best mover I ever judged was Saxon.
Yeah, I would imagine he's good.
And then I got in a really
big fight almost with Joey Toto.
I think I've told this story
before at Granite Games
where he was on a team and
one of his teammates...
had to drop the sandbag and
like go to the end of the thing.
But I stopped her in the
middle of the run and made
like to make her move the sandbag,
but she didn't really have
to move the sandbag.
So it was kind of my fault.
And then everyone was
screaming and yelling at me
and it didn't make a
difference because they won
and they went to the games anyway.
But that was a tenuous
moment for all of us.
He was very apologetic afterwards,
but I understand how mad he was.
I know repped 20 wall balls.
on the quarterfinal workout just recently.
Oh no.
I had to, I had to no rep.
Yeah.
It wasn't depth either.
It was like hitting it on
the way up versus, you know, you know,
who does that a lot?
Um, Noah Olson, he'll,
he'll admit that wall balls,
at least as of 2019,
it was not a strength of his.
And he,
I had him at rogue on that wall
ball rowing box, jump over workout.
And, um,
know started out with like
50 wall balls and I think
he probably did 60 wall
balls felt really bad oh
holly said I've only judged
little local things but
it's so fun ha I judged
stacy tovar once forever
ago and she's lovely and
you know why I had to share
that comment scott's jealous
but Holly is our stats and data girl.
And she's the one that does
all of our chaptering now.
And I am so appreciative of her.
Anytime I can tout her,
she's been killing it these
last couple of weeks with
stats and stuff.
Love, love what she's doing for us.
I have to hop off,
but I was going to tell you
one thing real quick about one,
the workout I coached today
was called the wrath of con.
Oh, no way.
But it's what Star Trek
stuff on there anyways.
But it was,
it was funny because even the
athletes were like, Amy,
this one was meant for you to come.
It does kind of seem like it
because it was accumulate a
hundred air bike calories
and then accumulate a
hundred ski calories and
you can mix it up however you want to.
So it was very endurance-y like that.
See, Justin, you did that like that.
Mayhem, yeah.
But I'm calling it the wrath
of Con Porter because I couldn't.
Con is awesome on the machines.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
It just worked out.
Yep.
All right.
I saw a workout the other
day called Star Trek.
Peace out.
Bye, Amy.
Bye, Amy.
Back here, someone asked about IF3.
I am familiar with that.
It's the International
Federation of Fitness...
something or other, but it, um,
it's the thing that like, uh,
Norway wins all of the stuff.
Cause they have national like athletes,
right.
That trained for that and
they get paid to do it.
Um, Mattel Garness has won it.
Um,
Kristen Holta has won it a couple of
times.
Um, is the,
like the U S poster girl for it
or has been in the past, I think.
And I think Justin Kotler
has something to do with it
as well here in the States.
But it's grown in those
countries where fitnessing
is a national sport.
They do really well because
they're actually funded to do it.
But it is a set regimen.
It is not unknown and unknowable.
It is very set in what they do.
And they have a judging group.
I did hear that they were
trying to form a judge.
They have very standard movements too.
I think their movements are
super standardized.
And so it's like a plug and play.
There's no, there,
there isn't much variation in, um,
in their movements and things.
So I think that's what they
were talking about.
Yeah.
They have a pretty, I think, um,
Andrew Sten knows a little bit about it,
I think.
Yeah.
He says they have a judging level system.
That should be done.
You get graded as a judge
and the better you are,
the higher level judge you are.
That happens in pro sports
all over the place.
And you screw up and you get demoted.
Right.
Or you do really well and
you get to go to the games or, you know,
in the NFL, if you're,
if you get graded out as a good referee,
you're the one doing the Superbowl.
Yeah.
So, um, yeah.
So the one thing on my list
that we haven't talked
about is I'm going to be on
Around the Whiteboard tomorrow.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, I just found out last night.
Cool.
I think.
And so I got to represent
Clydesdale Media and hopefully win.
I'm going up against Harriet
Roberts and Adam Klink.
Oh, okay.
So I've, they've never been on the show,
so I have no,
I'm just going to be brutal
and sarcastic and take them out.
I love it.
That'll be really fun.
Yeah.
We get the questions like a
little bit ahead of time.
Okay.
So I just got them and it's
going to be interesting.
Two of them I have like a
stream of consciousness of
things I want to say.
Now I got to get down to 60 seconds.
The other one,
like I have no idea where I'm going.
Oh boy.
So got to figure that out
before tomorrow at 3 p.m.
Eastern time.
Fun.
That's super fun.
Speaking of competition,
how are you feeling about the draft?
How are your bears doing?
All reports,
people love what the Bears
have done in the draft.
They got a good grade?
Yeah, A-plus from Yahoo.
They drafted a punter,
so some people gave him a ding on that,
but whatever.
I wanted to talk about,
have you been able to see Kill Taylor?
A little bit of it.
I've listened to Seb on some
of his podcasts,
but is Kill Taylor like a
separate series?
Yeah.
So it just started last week.
Coming off of Taylor versus the world.
Now they're doing Kill
Taylor where he comes up with a workout.
He does it.
And then you can call in and get a link.
Sevan sends you the link and
then you can try to beat Taylor's score.
If you do, you win $500.
Now last week, nobody won it.
So that 500 rolls over.
So this week it'll be a thousand dollars.
Okay.
Does he pick the workouts?
He does.
Okay.
So they're like in his
wheelhouse for the most part.
Right.
Because you want to be a challenge.
Right.
Um, is he going to semifinals?
He does.
Okay.
Like he's training for semifinals.
He needs to chill out.
Well,
like this workout he did the other
day was his time was two 50, two minutes.
So it's, well, yeah,
I guess for a viewing value too,
you can't have like a 20
minute something or other.
Yeah,
so the first workout was 10 rope climbs,
30 kettlebell clean and jerks.
Hmm, okay.
Is there a female scaled
equivalent to beat or do
you have to actually beat this time?
Yeah, they do put out a scaled.
Oh, they do?
They tried to get Alex Kazan to jump on.
Mm-hmm.
Jason Hopper was in the chat
saying that he was going to
wait till the money got
high enough to make it worth it.
So it'd be really cool if
like games athletes show showed up.
Jamie was Jamie was tempted
to jump on and do it last week.
She did not.
I'm I'm sad because she's
really good at rope climbs.
It would have been
kettlebell clean jerks for
her to get through that.
Um,
the one guy came really close and at
like rep 26 of the clean and jerk,
he just died and dropped the kettlebells.
Oh no.
But it was so fun to watch.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I'll have to look at that.
Watch.
Um, and they're doing it this Saturday.
Okay.
Um, I think it's like 10 Pacific,
10 or 10 30 Pacific.
So what's that?
Three hours,
one o'clock in the afternoon on Saturday.
Okay.
There is no max ceiling.
It's just going to keep
going and going until somebody beats him.
And, and,
and Corey's kind of bringing up
Taylor is mic'd up while
the other people are going.
And so he's commentary.
Yeah.
And then when the guy was
really close to beating him,
he was losing his mind.
So that's,
that's the entertainment value of it.
Yeah, Taylor's entertaining for sure.
Yeah.
He looks really good too.
He's looking lean and mean.
Yeah,
I think the pressure of taking on
Hopper and Colton and
Dallin really got him in
the best shape he's ever been.
It's going to be interesting
to see how he does at semis.
Because three of his workouts were top 10.
Yeah.
And then the one where he
blacked out and fell off the box.
But he's willing to go there.
That was a freak accident too, though.
I mean, he would have, you know,
had that not happened,
he would have been fine.
I said, what I think happened is, right,
he doesn't have the natural
skill set of Jason Hopper
or Dallin Pepper.
But his work ethic is so crazy.
Mm-hmm.
And he's willing to push
himself to that dark spot.
Yeah.
He can get there and stay there.
Three workouts of doing that
to compete with them.
His body was just done on workout four.
So it'll be interesting in
the semifinals when it's
not like a head to head ish thing.
And he just has to kind of
find his pace through the weekend.
Can he do that?
And it'd be, it'd be cool if he,
he made it to the games.
So cool.
because he has made it to
last chance qualifier
before he's been really close.
Well,
and he would argue that he's probably
fitter now than he's been ever been.
So, yeah.
And I've,
and him and Colton are willing to
go to places most athletes
aren't willing to go to.
Yeah.
And it's fun watching that.
So, uh, and I heard you worked out today.
I did.
I worked out today at a CrossFit gym.
It was great.
Yeah.
So, um, I went back to the doctor,
I got an MRI on my hand.
There's everything's fine.
It's just, um,
I just had some stupid like
flare up in the joint where
I have that crystallization
that could happen at any time,
whenever they're treated the same way,
lots of, um, lots of prednisone.
And, um,
he finally gave me a cortisone shot, uh,
last Friday.
which helped immensely.
And while I was there,
I got my tennis elbow
cortisone shotted for the third time.
Um, third time's a charm.
What's that?
Shot it.
The technical term.
Yes.
Shot.
I did it.
He shot it.
Um,
what I was really thankful for was that
he didn't make me come back.
Right.
You go to the doctor for
like a hand thing and it's like, Oh,
by the way, my elbow,
So what I did was I knew,
I know he's like an upper
extremity doctor.
And I said, he said, you know,
you could have this,
he's calling it pseudo gout
is my diagnosis.
So it's like, it shows up like gout,
but it's not systemic like gout.
I don't need to go to a
rheumatologist or anything like that.
But he said,
whenever you have some kind of a flare up,
you know,
you're going to treat it like
gout and we're going to, you know,
give you some steroids or some prednisone,
whatever,
and hope it goes away and just
make sure that you regain
your range of motion, whatever.
excuse me and uh I said okay
well I've had this tennis
elbow for the last like
eight months is that my
pseudo gout or is that just
tennis elbow and he's like
well I don't know let's get
an x-ray so we took an
x-ray he said definitely
it's um he he said
definitely um it's tennis
elbow he said these are the
things you need to do um he
said something really
interesting to me he said
that we all operate with
our hands down like palms
down all the time um
when we type, when we're on our phone,
when we drive everything else, he said,
whenever you're around and
you can think about it,
go palm up or thumb up.
So like hold your hand like this.
He's like,
hold the steering wheel like this,
like do the things like
this instead of like that.
Um, and he said that that should help.
Um, but this, the injection,
I got like a little
reaction from the injection,
like really sore, really painful,
you know, for a couple of days, but, um,
I'm doing all the things now.
Anyway, long story short,
went to the gym this morning,
did a 20 minute AMRAP of 400
meter run and three rounds
of Cindy for 20 minutes.
I know.
We did Cindy yesterday.
It's like Murph prep.
We did yesterday with 200
meter run every four minutes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Kind of the same thing.
Yeah.
Kind of the same thing.
So, yeah.
And I hadn't,
I hadn't held onto a pull-up
bar in probably two months and
So, and I'm down in weight.
I'm like about 10 pounds
lighter than I was three months ago.
So you'd think it would have
been easier for me to do it.
It felt like I had a vest on.
It was so hard.
Brand new spiel bar,
like rip my hands with like
the first warmup set.
Um, and I was like dead last,
but whatever.
It was cool.
And I'm going to go four times a week now.
That's going to be my new thing.
Awesome.
Yeah, I'm on that train.
But we have some life things
happening right now where
my daughter actually has one of our cars.
Oh, no.
Okay.
So we're down to one car.
Garage workouts.
Yeah, but I mean,
Julie only works like a
mile and a half away.
I can really take her to
work and pick her up if I
don't have things scheduled
at those times.
Look who's here.
I know.
Hey, buddy.
Yeah, supinated for life.
Definitely.
It's I'm doing all the things.
The funny thing is,
I've been to like three
different doctors for tennis elbow.
And this is the first time
that the doctor told me
that particular thing,
which has been helpful.
And I've been consciously doing it.
And like,
I feel like it makes a difference.
Because when you think about it, you know,
he was like,
what you're doing your
workouts not hurting your elbow,
like you're not
you know, that's an hour a day.
And he's like,
it's another 23 hours of your day.
It's like making your elbow
all screwed up.
He said basically that
tennis elbows are right at
passage for 50 year olds.
So I mean, you're late.
I, you know,
I ripped the deck off my house
and all that were left were
the posts in the ground.
So I've been breaking those
up with a sledgehammer and
pulling them out the ground.
Okay.
And I have over half of them done,
but my elbow is on fire.
from swinging the sledgehammer.
Yeah.
And that's like a different
movement pattern.
In my mind,
I'm doing double banger from the front.
Were you cheating or not cheating?
You can't hook these.
You have to hit them flush.
So, um, so yeah,
I'm trying to swing with
all my might to get those
posts to move and break up
the quick creep that
they're down in there.
And it's working.
It just, it, it is a really good workout.
But yeah, my elbow is feeling it for sure.
And I am 54 now, so.
There you go.
Christian, I ripped my hands a little bit,
like the palm of my hands.
Not completely ripped,
but the starting of some ripped.
That's what I am, Tex.
Walking encyclopedia of CrossFit crap.
I love it.
But anyway, so that was at,
I'll give a shout out to
CrossFit Equity in Elkton, Maryland.
That's going to be the gym
that I work out in now at for a while.
I still have my gym.
As of tomorrow,
it will no longer be a
CrossFit affiliate.
Very sad.
And so today I was on the
affiliate dashboard
screenshotting as much as I
could from the cat
programming and the
marketing instructions and
all that kind of stuff.
So we'll see how that goes.
I know.
Equity CrossFit.
CrossFit Equity.
So as an affiliate owner,
it's hard to get your
workouts in when you own a
gym at your gym.
Well,
it was easier when I didn't have a
full-time job because I
could hang out after class
and do my workouts.
But now as soon as class is over,
like as soon as class is over,
I got to get in the car and
come home and work.
So it makes it difficult.
Yeah.
How is the new job?
It's amazing.
I love it.
I would not, I would, you know,
I would not, um,
I would be homeless if it
wasn't for my job.
Like it's very lucrative and
it keeps me sane.
So, um,
and Christian wants to know why no
longer affiliated.
So my business has been
losing about $2,000 a month
since it started.
Um, and I used to have a lot of money, um,
and all that money's gone
now because I had to
subsidize the gym and the
gym is still underwater and
we couldn't afford the
$4,500 affiliate fee.
So it's a bummer.
Um, and the new job, um,
Barry is with a financial
institution that I don't want to name,
but, um, I do some governance with, um,
consumer savings accounts.
And you've worked in the
banking industry your whole
life other than the gym.
Correct.
Yeah.
I've been in banking and in
compliance and governance
and marketing for forever.
It's not V of a. Yeah.
I can't let my stalker know where I,
where I work.
So, so I'm not saying.
Yeah.
Well, cool.
So, um, you know, yes,
I'm going to get all the, uh,
you know,
all the criticism about how
you're still doing CrossFit
and nothing's changed and
you're basically stealing whatever.
I mean,
the people in my gym were not
CrossFitters.
Like that's not the,
that is not the badge that they wore.
Um, everybody is, you know,
trying to get fitter for longevity.
And so strength for
longevity is kind of like
our new tagline.
is what we're,
what we're trying to market to.
So my, my avatar client is, you know,
50 plus years old.
And some,
some of those people have never
worked out before.
So we're just trying to keep
them fit and going.
And they, you know,
when I announced to them
that we weren't going to be
an affiliate anymore, they were like,
I didn't even know we were an affiliate.
So, you know,
Catalyst Fitness has always
been the leading brand, thank goodness.
So nothing really changes.
There's a,
there's a mural I have to cover
up in the gym and that's about it.
so with that uh what's going
on this week is we have the
weight loss show this
afternoon 4 0 5 p.m eastern
time we have uh I'm on
around the whiteboard
tomorrow at three o'clock eastern time
Then Thursday, we have Gabby Spenced,
our first in the semifinal series,
and the one that I had
scheduled that didn't get a penalty.
So she remains on the docket.
And I'm in talks with
Tristan to maybe do another
chopping up with Tristan on
Thursday as well.
We are moving Thursday night
CrossFit talk to Sunday nights now.
nice um the crowd on sunday
night was so awesome and so
huge um we're gonna keep
trying to do that then and
see if that makes more
sense kind of gives allows
us to do a recap of the
week um stuff like that so
and then sometime this
afternoon I'm gonna start
scheduling semi-final
interviews because the
leaderboard is closed hopefully
Everybody but Gabby that I scheduled,
I had to call and say,
I guess we need to postpone
or whatever happens here.
So, yeah.
Crazy.
And then one huge last shout
out to Thick Boy for
sponsoring all of our shows.
He's doing a great job with that.
And can't wait to get our
merch out on his website.
He's making the screens this week,
so they should be coming soon.
With that,
we will talk to everybody next
time on the Clydesdale Media Roundtable.
See you guys.
Bye, guys.